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From: tasdoom | Posted: 1/2/2004 09:32:46 PM | Message Detail | # 1

DO NOT REPOST THIS ANYWHERE ELSE OR EVEN MENTION IT.

From: Mark Lin
To: [email protected]
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 00:27:25 -0700
Subject: Abuse: theoutboards.com

To whom it may concern,

It is my regret to inform you that one of your hostees,
theoutboards.com, violated your Acceptable Use Policy in a manner that
severely affected one of my company-owned websites.

My name is Mark Lin, Vice Chairman of Ingenious Genesis, Inc., a website
design and operation company based in the United Kingdom. Among our
properties is the "Life, Universe, and Everything" Community Boards
located at www.lue.olddh.com (now offline), a forum for teenagers and
adults to converse about life, current issues, and miscellany.

The owner of theoutboards.com, "Outbreakorn" (Zachary Getz), posted a
topic (theoutboards.com/boards/messagelist.php?board=10&topic=67107) at
1/1 12:28 AM GMT on his boards inciting the users on his message boards
to attack my company's boards. His post is as follows:

"Everyone make as many accounts as you can. The attack will come
tomorrow. I suggest not using your name here, as they will most likely
be alerted of this."

Since my board's URL was posted on the Outboards, tens of users from the
Outboards already invaded my company's boards even before the planned
attack time. Among the attacks were repeated postings of offensive
messages such as "The admins here are pathetic failures", "This board
will be hacked within 3 days", etc. I have logs of at least 100
offensive messages from 8-10 different Outboards users.

Additional topics:
http://theoutboards.com/boards/messagelist.php?board=10&topic=67121
http://theoutboards.com/boards/messagelist.php?board=10&topic=67127
http://theoutboards.com/boards/messagelist.php?board=10&topic=67081
These actions, and Outbreakorn's condoning of them, violates the
"Attacks and Exploits" clause of your AUP.

This is not the first time the Outboards has plotted to invade another
board. About 4-5 months ago, a community called whiteFyre
(whitefyre.com/boards) was invaded in an attack headed by Jay (http://theoutboards.com/boards/whois.php?user=6),
an Outboards administrator. After taking advantage of an exploit to
access the admin controls, he trashed the whiteFyre user database by
deleting large chunks of it, and posted offensive images from
"goatse.cx" on whiteFyre's homepage. He then put into place his own
administration team and ejected all the legitimate ones. Luckily, no
permanent damage was done as the whiteFyre databases were backed up a
day before his attacks. For verification purposes, the whiteFyre owner,
ultimategamer00, can be contacted at "[email protected]".

Additionally, the Outboards violate your policy's "Content" clause by
condoning links to adult websites, pirated software, and hacker
programs/archives. While these actions do not directly affect my
company's property, I would still like to bring them to your attention.

In this topic (http://theoutboards.com/boards/messagelist.php?board=10&topic=66351),
users share links to illegal serial websites for personal benefit. The
green "+1 Virtue" at the top of the post signifies an admin-rewarded
post for "quality", "humor", "intelligence", or "helpfulness" (in this
case helpfulness) per the admin's discretion.

In this topic (http://theoutboards.com/boards/messagelist.php?board=10&topic=67019),
one of the users offers to share illegal passwords to pornography
membership websites, and users request them. Whether joking or not, all
of this is condoned by the moderators and administrators.

Extremely offensive racial slurs are also commonplace there. This URL
(http://theoutboards.com/boards/messagelist.php?board=10&topic=67084)
links to a topic posted by a moderator, who was later rewarded by an
administrator for humor based on usage of a heavily offensive term.

I hope you will take the time to look into these violations, and please
do not hesitate to contact me if you have any questions.

Happy new year, and best regards.

Mark Lin
Vice Chairman
iGenesis, Inc.
[email protected]
Phone: (253) 323-6476
Fax: (253) 323-6476

From: Umaro | Posted: 1/2/2004 09:37:21 PM | Message Detail | # 2

>:)
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I leik caek.

From: Ninja! | Posted: 1/2/2004 09:39:27 PM | Message Detail | # 3

Hmmm....
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The Reaper is always a step behind me....WHAT?- Shadow, FFVI

From: Blacklock | Posted: 1/2/2004 10:25:20 PM | Message Detail | # 4

I agree with Umaro.

>:-)
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BibLUECal Horseman #1
N00b Killer

From: Shiftyfu | Posted: 1/2/2004 11:09:18 PM | Message Detail | # 5

^_^
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My name begins with J and ends with H.
"I love cheese! I feel cheese! Mmmmm Cheeese!"

From: Ninja! | Posted: 1/3/2004 04:14:02 AM | Message Detail | # 6

I hope they shut that place down....
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The Reaper is always a step behind me....WHAT?- Shadow, FFVI

From: ssj2kite | Posted: 1/3/2004 04:23:15 AM | Message Detail | # 7

I hope they shut that place down....
*seconds*
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This is my Signature.

From: Crimson Hellflame | Posted: 1/3/2004 09:49:13 PM | Message Detail | # 8

Sorry to use this term here, but PWNED!

Alright, now that my LUEser instincts have been satisfied, my question is, how could they not shut them down? And if they don't would you like users to email the host with the same complaints? I'm not suggesting a flood, but I mean, more people than just one? I don't plan on emailing them, as that email should be enough for the host to realize they need to take action.
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BibLUEcal Horseman #3
NINJA ASSASSIN.

From: iGenesis | Posted: 1/3/2004 10:03:03 PM | Message Detail | # 9

They haven't taken action yet and it's been 2 days, so we may have to get additional users to email them, unfortunately. :(

From: Crimson Hellflame | Posted: 1/4/2004 05:22:53 AM | Message Detail | # 10

I'm ready and willing, just tell me what I need to do/say/etc...
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BibLUEcal Horseman #3
NINJA ASSASSIN.

From: Ninja! | Posted: 1/4/2004 06:13:27 AM | Message Detail | # 11

Hmmm....
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The Reaper is always a step behind me....¿WHAT?- Shadow, FFVI
NINJA CAT !!: http://tinyurl.com/3hgdv

From: Crimson Hellflame | Posted: 1/4/2004 09:46:53 PM | Message Detail | # 12

Do we need to do this? Evidently they're threatening to write scripts and all to shut us down, and I'll be damned if I can tell if it's real. Of course there's that little voice in the back of my head saying that Jay lied about admin account passwords and this could very well be the same thing...
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BibLUEcal Horseman #3
NINJA ASSASSIN.