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From: BigRedMachine | Posted: 6/24/2003 12:40:39 PM | Mark | Suggest | -
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Subject: Board Issues : Questions about the events of last night




Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:31:37 -0700



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What's this I hear about you supposedly considering sending Cease/Desist
orders to me, TU, and LAF?

That seems rather ridiculous considering...

I got into only 3 accounts last night. The first I did nothing more than
change its info, the second was some level 15 that TRC gave me access
to, which I used to view one particular topic and then log out, and the
third was the only one I actually posted with--an account Troahbarton
posted the pass to at DSL (which has since been deleted, along with any
other topic pertaining to hacking accounts, as DSL is also trying to
clean up its act). I admit I posted a few messages with it, but it was
certainly not my aim to suicide the account, otherwise I would have done
so.

TU accessed absolutely no accounts whatsoever last night.

And LAF... well... alright, he did log into a lot of them, I can't deny
that.

As it currently stands, I was already going out of my way to stay out of
cracked accounts--before last night, too. I recall informing the other
members of the "KOS Krew" of my intention to do so at least a week ago,
in a chat where many, many account names and passwords were passed
around freely, of which I used none.

You have my word that I will break into no more accounts, and I can
assure you TU and LAF feel the same way.

It is not my purpose to be a trouble-maker or a thorn in your side.
Being associated with users who do make that their goal may taint my
image, but considering the fact that I had access to a GameFAQs
moderator account just a little over a month ago which I could have
easily caused a lot of damage with, but did not, should prove my
intentions not malicious.

Finally, if you feel it necessary to punish the trouble makers
responsible for the incidents of last night, Jay should be a main
priority--he literally gave the KOS Krew Paradoxicity's entire DB full
of account names and passwords. And he has countless more DB's at his
disposal, as well, considering he's given admin access at many, many
spin-offs.

He's basically responsible, directly or indirectly, for absolutely every
single account hacked last night, and yet he escapes the situation
without a scratch.

It seems almost an injustice that users who broke into one or two
accounts are getting in trouble, yet the user who made those accounts
available to them does not.

Thanks for reading this, and I have just one more question--what level
KOS am I on?
From: rancid milk | Posted: 6/24/2003 12:42:35 PM | Mark | Suggest
You ratted out Jay? Christ, you are a fucking pussy.
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From: BigRedMachine | Posted: 6/24/2003 12:43:34 PM | Mark | Suggest
Of course I ratted out Jay.

Why should the KOSed Krew take all the blame for what happened last night when Jay gave it a list of at least 1000 names/passwords?
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From: BigRedMachine | Posted: 6/24/2003 12:43:46 PM | Mark | Suggest | -
Besides, Jay is a nigger.
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From: XThe UnknownX | Posted: 6/24/2003 12:44:00 PM | Mark | Suggest
I'm sure veasy already knows.

Magus told veasy that they got all the accounts from para's database.


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From: rancid milk | Posted: 6/24/2003 12:44:03 PM | Mark | Suggest
Silence rat bitch.
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From: Magus Machine | Posted: 6/24/2003 12:44:20 PM | Mark | Suggest
...yeah..
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From: BigRedMachine | Posted: 6/24/2003 12:44:48 PM | Mark | Suggest
Yeah, so technically, Magus rat-bitched before I did.
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From: Magus Machine | Posted: 6/24/2003 12:45:22 PM | Mark | Suggest
Yes....
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From: rancid milk | Posted: 6/24/2003 12:45:48 PM | Mark | Suggest
"I got into only 3 accounts last night. The first I did nothing more than
change its info, the second was some level 15 that TRC gave me access
to, which I used to view one particular topic and then log out, and the
third was the only one I actually posted with--an account Troahbarton
posted the pass to at DSL"

You're literally spilling your guts out like a pussy to him.
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From: BigRedMachine | Posted: 6/24/2003 12:46:33 PM | Mark | Suggest
... if I didn't, he would assume that I jacked those myself as well.
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From: XThe UnknownX | Posted: 6/24/2003 12:47:01 PM | Mark | Suggest
CJayC won't go after TRC
And troah in untouchable, remember?
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From: Game555 | Posted: 6/24/2003 12:47:03 PM | Mark | Suggest
Also ratted out LAF.....


Game555X (12:48:41 PM): That moron BRM is telling Ceej the names
rancidxmilk (12:50:09 PM): i can't believe he did that
Game555X (12:52:36 PM): BRM is petrified of Ceej
Game555X (12:52:38 PM): it's funny
rancidxmilk (12:52:54 PM): obviously
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From: BigRedMachine | Posted: 6/24/2003 12:47:53 PM | Mark | Suggest
I didn't rat out LAF, I was trying to cover for him, as well as TU, since we seem to be highest on Veasey's hitlist.
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From: rancid milk | Posted: 6/24/2003 12:48:21 PM | Mark | Suggest
Then let him assume, BRM is just feeding CJayC infomation. He's fucking petrified of him.

rancidxmilk: so you're going after TU/LAF/BRM?..because you seem to think they are troublemakers
CJayC: All three have been in accounts in the past month, no?
rancidxmilk: i keep track of myself, not them


Just keep your fucking mouth shut like I do.
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From: rancid milk | Posted: 6/24/2003 12:49:36 PM | Mark | Suggest
Oh shit, he did rat out LAF.

"And LAF... well... alright, he did log into a lot of them, I can't deny
that."

Did you have to even mention all that, really.
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From: XThe UnknownX | Posted: 6/24/2003 12:49:45 PM | Mark | Suggest
I don't think I've really done anything the past month.

But It seems he is assuming my FTP was a proxy server. Considering his topic last night.
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From: BigRedMachine | Posted: 6/24/2003 12:50:40 PM | Mark | Suggest
"Did you have to even mention all that, really."

LAF's "Scared Shitless" topic already admitted to accessing hacked accounts.

To top it off, LAF probably accessed all of those from his regular IP.
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From: Game555 | Posted: 6/24/2003 12:52:12 PM | Mark | Suggest
So you rat him out to Ceej and leave no doubt?

You are a fool.
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From: rancid milk | Posted: 6/24/2003 12:52:53 PM | Mark | Suggest
He never directly said he jacked an account, he just said "backs away from jacked accounts", why the fuck do you even bring LAF up in the email, just to get him in more trouble?
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From: BigRedMachine | Posted: 6/24/2003 12:55:38 PM | Mark | Suggest
"He never directly said he jacked an account, he just said "backs away from jacked accounts", why the fuck do you even bring LAF up in the email, just to get him in more trouble?"

Uhh, directly saying he jacked an account, and saying "*backs away from jacked accounts*" mean the same exact thing to Veasey. Don't even fool yourself by attempting to say otherwise.
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From: Game555 | Posted: 6/24/2003 12:56:42 PM | Mark | Suggest
ignoring me, BRM?
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From: Magus Machine | Posted: 6/24/2003 12:57:59 PM | Mark | Suggest
That wasn't a good idea, BRM. He isn't even out for you.
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From: rancid milk | Posted: 6/24/2003 12:58:39 PM | Mark | Suggest
Veasey is NOT ON DARKSIDE LEGION, therefore he cannot see LAF's topic. You just continue feeding him all infomation about who jacked who's account and create more shit for people. Would you fucking like it if LAF put a side note in that BRM made a topic giving away a 900+ karma account when it was not fucking necessary whatsoever?
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From: BigRedMachine | Posted: 6/24/2003 12:58:41 PM | Mark | Suggest
"So you rat him out to Ceej and leave no doubt?

You are a fool."


There was no doubt there in the first place, fool.

LAF has been bragging about his jacked accounts, and to top it off probably accessed them without a proxy.

There is absolutely no way Veasey could not know that he was in some.
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From: TRC! | Posted: 6/24/2003 12:59:30 PM | Mark | Suggest
meh
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From: apathetic | Posted: 6/24/2003 12:59:50 PM | Mark | Suggest
Uhh, directly saying he jacked an account, and saying "*backs away from jacked accounts*" mean the same exact thing to Veasey. Don't even fool yourself by attempting to say otherwise.

That's not really the point. Why even bring other users up in your email to him? Cover your own ass but not at others expense. If everyone sends their own email to him concerning their own issues then they're more likely to get off easier. If everyone just narcs on everyone else they you're all screwed.
From: Game555 | Posted: 6/24/2003 12:59:55 PM | Mark | Suggest
LAF doesn't bragg.

He never does.

LAF never even GOT INTO account to my knowledge, he just stuck with the emails.
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From: rancid milk | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:00:21 PM | Mark | Suggest
That is between LAF and CJayC, why the fuck do you include LAF directly and pin him directly to shit in your email along with naming name's to him? Trademark of a rat bitch.
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From: BigRedMachine | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:01:18 PM | Mark | Suggest
"Veasey is NOT ON DARKSIDE LEGION, therefore he cannot see LAF's topic. You just continue feeding him all infomation about who jacked who's account and create more shit for people. Would you fucking like it if LAF put a side note in that BRM made a topic giving away a 900+ karma account when it was not fucking necessary whatsoever?"

I can absolutely guarantee you there are probably at least a few mods/rat bitches with accounts here (like Josh Welling?) who were more than happy to report these kinds of topics to CJayC.
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From: shoooooooooooooooter | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:01:21 PM | Mark | Suggest
Crazy.
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From: rancid milk | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:02:12 PM | Mark | Suggest
"I can absolutely guarantee you there are probably at least a few mods/rat bitches with accounts here (like Josh Welling?) who were more than happy to report these kinds of topics to CJayC."

You sure did a great job of reporting it to CJayC. Why not compare you to Josh Welling?
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From: BigRedMachine | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:02:52 PM | Mark | Suggest
"That's not really the point. Why even bring other users up in your email to him? Cover your own ass but not at others expense. If everyone sends their own email to him concerning their own issues then they're more likely to get off easier. If everyone just narcs on everyone else they you're all screwed."

...

I didn't narc on anyone.
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From: Game555 | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:03:20 PM | Mark | Suggest
No one if going to fucking report LAF to Ceej for a topic saying "*backs away from jacked accounts*
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From: rancid milk | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:05:46 PM | Mark | Suggest
"Finally, if you feel it necessary to punish the trouble makers
responsible for the incidents of last night, Jay should be a main
priority--he literally gave the KOS Krew Paradoxicity's entire DB full
of account names and passwords. And he has countless more DB's at his
disposal, as well, considering he's given admin access at many, many
spin-offs.

He's basically responsible, directly or indirectly, for absolutely every
single account hacked last night, and yet he escapes the situation
without a scratch."


If that isn't ratting, I don't know what is. You couldn't just keep your fucking mouth shit, you even go on to say "he's basically responsible for everything last nite". Give me a motherfucking break.
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From: shoooooooooooooooter | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:06:19 PM | Mark | Suggest
HOLY FUCKING SHIT CJAYC WILL EAT YOU ALIVE!!!11!1
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From: TRC! | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:06:53 PM | Mark | Suggest
I got into 3 accounts yesterday.

HMManiac12-222 karma (tried to keep)
Peter North-4 karma (gave to BRM I believe)
holyswordsmen-466 karma (gave back to user when I realized she used to post at the FFT Main Board, left a note in her quote telling her she was lucky, and to not use universal passwords)

and Veasey knows all of this, because I=to lazy to use proxies, they are so slow with my dial up modem it is unbareable to do it any longer then to reg accounts when I need too, which I haven't done since 6/10/03, and before that, only about twice since mid-May, when after I regged over 30 accounts since my re-KOS, I got bored of it. ~_~
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From: BigRedMachine | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:07:03 PM | Mark | Suggest
Why the fuck shouldn't I?

Is Jay not responsible for what happened last night?

Would users who broke into maybe only a few accounts possibly take the fall for something Jay is responsible for while Jay remains completely unscythed?

I believe the answer to both of those is "yes."
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From: rancid milk | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:08:10 PM | Mark | Suggest
You're nothing but a fucking sycophant. Everyone on this board will agree with me when I call you a rat bitch.
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From: BigRedMachine | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:12:09 PM | Mark | Suggest
... exactly what the fuck have you done for the KOS Krew anyway?

You seem to be incapable of doing anything more than making empty death threats over AIM.

Biggest fucking attention whore, ever.
From: TRC! | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:12:40 PM | Mark | Suggest
Well, let me just say, that why did you have to say anything?

1.This thing would have probably just blown over.
2.Who cares if Jay gave us access to the para database, did it really benefit you, or us for the matter, in any way blaming him?
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From: rancid milk | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:12:56 PM | Mark | Suggest
I can't tell a rat of course, then it's off to Veasey BRM goes.
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From: XThe UnknownX | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:13:09 PM | Mark | Suggest
Even though BRM really shouldn't have ratted out, I forgive him.
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From: TRC! | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:14:00 PM | Mark | Suggest
Who cares what he has done? I haven't done anything either, yet, I can still tell when somebody rats out others.
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From: BigRedMachine | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:14:57 PM | Mark | Suggest
"Well, let me just say, that why did you have to say anything?

1.This thing would have probably just blown over."


The fuck it would have.

Veasey contacted three (possibly more) fucking ISP's last night, and he already seems ready to start filing legal action against users who break into accounts.

"2.Who cares if Jay gave us access to the para database, did it really benefit you, or us for the matter, in any way blaming him?"

Well, it sort of places less blame on the KOS Krew, and more blame on the user who is responsible for the hackings.

Plus, Magus already gave up that secret last night anyway, so it's not like I revealed anything to him he didn't already know.
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From: TRC! | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:15:22 PM | Mark | Suggest
Well, I can forgive him, but, this is, like unbelievable. o_O

I mean, BRM, the legendary GF KOSer, writing an email to CJayC placing the blame on others...
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From: Game555 | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:15:27 PM | Mark | Suggest
[This message was deleted by a Darkside Legion Moderator]
From: BigRedMachine | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:15:43 PM | Mark | Suggest
"I can't tell a rat of course, then it's off to Veasey BRM goes."

I am NOT a fucking rat.

And if you call me a rat again, I'm going to go tell Veasey on you. <_<
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From: TRC! | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:16:56 PM | Mark | Suggest
Veasey contacts your ISPs all the fucking time, I do not think this would have made a difference, and we all know that his legal threats have no ground.
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From: Immortal Ace | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:17:42 PM | Mark | Suggest
You ratted BRM, pitiful.
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From: rancid milk | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:18:14 PM | Mark | Suggest
Funny how he calls me an "attention whore" seeing as how I never brag when I do the shit I do. I certainly don't make attention topics on GameFAQs, since I only post on secret boards.

I won't forgive him for this. He broke a cardinal rule, who've of thought a KOS user like BRM would break down to CJayC and rat on everyone.
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From: BigRedMachine | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:18:29 PM | Mark | Suggest
"Veasey contacts your ISPs all the fucking time, I do not think this would have made a difference, and we all know that his legal threats have no ground."

Not ALL of his legal threats are groundless.

Any directed towards DSL because some "hackers" post here are obviously groundless.

Any directed towards particular users may very well be legit.

At any rate, I don't want to take the chance.

Why should I fucking risk getting sued or something over a FUCKING MESSAGE BOARD?

It isn't worth it.
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From: Game555 | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:19:50 PM | Mark | Suggest
TU and BRM are both pathetic and feel the need to delete my posts because they can't handle me.
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From: Phillballer | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:20:41 PM | Mark | Suggest
Fucking unbelievable...
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From: rancid milk | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:20:49 PM | Mark | Suggest
So you let others take the fall BRM, rat out as many users as possible to CJayC will take it a little more easier on yourself? Sad.
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From: shoooooooooooooooter | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:21:08 PM | Mark | Suggest
Why should I fucking risk getting sued or something over a FUCKING MESSAGE BOARD?

It isn't worth it.


I agree with BRM on that. Everytime your internet gets shutdown, or your ISP is contacted, it goes on your permanent record. Then it's harder to get a job, and it fucks up your life. Just because of a message board.
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From: BigRedMachine | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:21:18 PM | Mark | Suggest
"TU and BRM are both pathetic and feel the need to delete my posts because they can't handle me."

I've deleted none of your posts in this topic.
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From: TRC! | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:22:39 PM | Mark | Suggest
You wouldn't get sued, tell me exactly what they would manage to sue you over, and not to mention, do you really think CNETs lawyers would waste their money sueing a few fucking kids on a spinoff message board?
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From: Game555 | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:23:13 PM | Mark | Suggest
In this topic...

...

See but I have yet to violate the TOS.

But look at my modded messages and Essence?


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From: rancid milk | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:23:16 PM | Mark | Suggest
Agent BRM was too busy relaying infomation to Veasey. The rat bitch that he is.
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From: BigRedMachine | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:24:18 PM | Mark | Suggest
"You wouldn't get sued, tell me exactly what they would manage to sue you over, and not to mention, do you really think CNETs lawyers would waste their money sueing a few fucking kids on a spinoff message board?"

(1) They could say that we forced Veasey into adding tons of extra security, which he could claim cost him time/money.

(2) If CNET thinks we're doing legit damage to a business they just purchased, yes, they'll waste their money using a few fucking kids on a spin-off message board.
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From: TRC! | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:24:56 PM | Mark | Suggest
See this is why I never had a problem, I knew when to draw the line, I still do not believe CJayC has any legal ground, but I made damn sure I did not do anything that CJayC would get all that angry about, in my opinion, you guys were tryin to push as far as you could go, and you should have been ready to accept the consequences of your actions.
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From: BigRedMachine | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:25:16 PM | Mark | Suggest
"In this topic...

...

See but I have yet to violate the TOS.

But look at my modded messages and Essence?"


I've taken none of your essence and modded none of your messages.

I've banned you a few times, yes, but that was quickly overturned.
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From: XThe UnknownX | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:26:37 PM | Mark | Suggest
Agent Red
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From: TRC! | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:26:38 PM | Mark | Suggest
There is no way they could prove that we caused damage, and I highly doubt this is causing CJayC any money. Also, if they did indeed have a case, the most they could probably sue you for is the money it cost CJayC to add security features and shit, which would be way less then it would cost to actually sue you guys.
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From: Game555 | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:26:39 PM | Mark | Suggest
Yes because you can't handle me, and therefore ban me.

Fucking pansy.
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From: Immortal Ace | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:27:43 PM | Mark | Suggest
Ok, seriously. Remember waht Cjay said, if the account jackings stop we have nothing to worry about.
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From: rancid milk | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:27:50 PM | Mark | Suggest
I see BRM is intentionally ignoring all of my posts, but I expect that from a rat.

It's obvious BRM is scared because an hour ago he was laughing about how CNET/CJayC would take someone to court over a "fucking message board account.
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From: BigRedMachine | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:27:55 PM | Mark | Suggest
"There is no way they could prove that we caused damage, and I highly doubt this is causing CJayC any money. Also, if they did indeed have a case, the most they could probably sue you for is the money it cost CJayC to add security features and shit, which would be way less then it would cost to actually sue you guys."

...

I don't want to get sued for ANY amount of money.

Legal battles are a fucking pain in the ass.
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From: TRC! | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:28:21 PM | Mark | Suggest
Silence Game, you add nothing of value to this conversation.
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From: BigRedMachine | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:30:03 PM | Mark | Suggest
"I see BRM is intentionally ignoring all of my posts, but I expect that from a rat."

All your messages are doing is reiterating your point over and over and over--that I'm a "rat bitch" because I actually had the audacity to cover my ass with a simple email.

"It's obvious BRM is scared because an hour ago he was laughing about how CNET/CJayC would take someone to court over a "fucking message board account."

And I thought it over, and decided that if Veasey could actually issue Cease and Desist orders against message board users if he wanted to, the large corporation he works for could probably go a bit further.
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From: TRC! | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:31:18 PM | Mark | Suggest
meh, fair enough I guess, I was smart enough to make sure I never got into that position, so I guess I can not make a real assumption on what could happen.
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From: BigRedMachine | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:31:48 PM | Mark | Suggest
And also, I fail to see why I should offer up any loyalty to Rancid, even at my own expense, especially after he demoted me because I wouldn't talk to him on the phone.
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From: rancid milk | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:32:12 PM | Mark | Suggest
Ratting out everyone else for unrelated shit is not "covering your ass", it's making them look worse than you. You're a pussy.
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From: BigRedMachine | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:33:08 PM | Mark | Suggest
"Ratting out everyone else for unrelated shit is not "covering your ass", it's making them look worse than you. You're a pussy."

Why shouldn't they look worse than me in the first place?

As it currently stands, they already did worse than me.
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From: rancid milk | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:35:48 PM | Mark | Suggest
In your fucking opinion, why don't you bring up what YOU did instead of bringing up what OTHERS did? Would you like it if BlueRaven wrote CJayC an emailing explaining your involvement of the Andrea Blackheart hacking even though he only got into his AIM?
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From: TRC! | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:36:32 PM | Mark | Suggest
Well, if you were scared about legal action, you could have just wrote an email, apologizing for YOUR actions, not mentioning anyone else, and then say you will not jack any more accounts.
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From: BigRedMachine | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:38:02 PM | Mark | Suggest
"In your fucking opinion, why don't you bring up what YOU did instead of bringing up what OTHERS did? Would you like it if BlueRaven wrote CJayC an emailing explaining your involvement of the Andrea Blackheart hacking even though he only got into his AIM?"

I wouldn't really care, considering it's already common knowledge me and LAF got into her account.

Finally, nothing you can say to me or accuse me of being really means anything to me, considering I know that:

(A) I won't be fucking sued over something on a message board.

(B) I won't lose my Internet over something on a fucking message board.

(C) I won't get a fucking C + D ordering me to stay away from GameFAQs or I'll be arrested over something on a fucking message board.
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From: rancid milk | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:38:04 PM | Mark | Suggest
Exactly TRC, he has to bring up what others did in a pisspoor attempt to make him look better in front of CJayC when compared to others. Rat.
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From: rancid milk | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:40:01 PM | Mark | Suggest
Ok you just said you can't be sued, yet you posted you were afraid of legal battles and CNET and their lawsuits earlier, you fucking hypocrite.
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From: XThe UnknownX | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:41:31 PM | Mark | Suggest
oh nos
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From: BigRedMachine | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:41:44 PM | Mark | Suggest
"Ok you just said you can't be sued, yet you posted you were afraid of legal battles and CNET and their lawsuits earlier, you fucking hypocrite."

Did you not read this earlier message from me? :

"And I thought it over, and decided that if Veasey could actually issue Cease and Desist orders against message board users if he wanted to, the large corporation he works for could probably go a bit further."
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From: TRC! | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:42:49 PM | Mark | Suggest
I find it funny, how BRM failed to mention that the name I gave him, I found in the para database, which he gave me access too.
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From: rancid milk | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:43:10 PM | Mark | Suggest
I read it and it totally contradicts your statement of:

I know that:

(A) I won't be fucking sued over something on a message board.

(B) I won't lose my Internet over something on a fucking message board.

(C) I won't get a fucking C + D ordering me to stay away from GameFAQs or I'll be arrested over something on a fucking message board.
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From: rancid milk | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:44:09 PM | Mark | Suggest
Of course BRM didn't mention that TRC, he wants to look the best in front of CJayC.
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From: BigRedMachine | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:44:29 PM | Mark | Suggest
"I read it and it totally contradicts your statement of:

I know that:

(A) I won't be fucking sued over something on a message board.

(B) I won't lose my Internet over something on a fucking message board.

(C) I won't get a fucking C + D ordering me to stay away from GameFAQs or I'll be arrested over something on a fucking message board."


I meant that since I cleared this up for Veasey I won't have to worry about those things.
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From: BigRedMachine | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:45:05 PM | Mark | Suggest
"Of course BRM didn't mention that TRC, he wants to look the best in front of CJayC."

...

Would it have made any difference at all the name of the low-level account I used?
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From: TRC! | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:45:38 PM | Mark | Suggest
Fair enough I guess, but a simple apology letter would have done that trick.
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From: rancid milk | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:47:03 PM | Mark | Suggest
"I meant that since I cleared this up for Veasey I won't have to worry about those things."

Translation: I ratted out any users that hacked accounts too, even though the accounts were totally unrelated to the ones I jacked I still ratted them out because I want to look even better in the eyes of CJayC and I fear legal action that's why I rat.
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From: TRC! | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:47:05 PM | Mark | Suggest
It made enough of a difference for you to even bother mentioning me, not to mention I got access to a 222 karma and 466 karma account through the para DB. I was nice though and let the 466 karma user off.
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From: TRC! | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:48:22 PM | Mark | Suggest
There is nothing wrong with fearing legal action, nobody wants to be sued, the point is there were better ways to avoid it other then rattin out people like Jay.
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From: rancid milk | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:48:54 PM | Mark | Suggest
That's what I mean, he rats out people to avoid his own problems. Pathetic.
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From: BigRedMachine | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:49:01 PM | Mark | Suggest
"It made enough of a difference for you to even bother mentioning me, not to mention I got access to a 222 karma and 466 karma account through the para DB. I was nice though and let the 466 karma user off."

I didn't mean to specifically implicate you in anything, I didn't really even think of it actually.

In retrospect, you're right, I could have just mentioned a level 15 account I used to view one topic, and I'm sorry I did mention you.
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From: BigRedMachine | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:50:28 PM | Mark | Suggest
"That's what I mean, he rats out people to avoid his own problems. Pathetic."

...

When my own problems are mainly a result of the actions of other users, yes.

Do you honestly think that had certain users not broke into 20-plus accounts each, Veasey would have given two shits about this entire incident?
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From: rancid milk | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:50:38 PM | Mark | Suggest
Are you not sorry for mentioning everyone else and ratting them out to CJayC making CJayC go after them more than go after you?
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From: TRC! | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:51:22 PM | Mark | Suggest
Well, I guess that is alright (is going for un-KOS July 1st) so I need to be on good behaivor, which I normally am, I already told him on AIM I jacked HMManiac12, and he was alright with that, mainly because I could have done way more then that, and I told him I gave holyswordsmen her name back.
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From: BigRedMachine | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:52:02 PM | Mark | Suggest
"Are you not sorry for mentioning everyone else and ratting them out to CJayC making CJayC go after them more than go after you?"

The only user I mentioned in a negative light was Jay, and he deserves to share the blame with the rest of us for giving away DB(s) like that.
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From: rancid milk | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:53:42 PM | Mark | Suggest
That's still no excuse for bringing down other people and just plain ratting them out just so you don't look bad compared to others to CJayC.
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From: BigRedMachine | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:53:43 PM | Mark | Suggest
"Well, I guess that is alright (is going for un-KOS July 1st) so I need to be on good behaivor, which I normally am, I already told him on AIM I jacked HMManiac12, and he was alright with that, mainly because I could have done way more then that, and I told him I gave holyswordsmen her name back."

Had I caught him on AIM, I would have been able to come clean in a similar way, but unfortunately I didn't.

The first thing I saw when I got on was at least three users' ISP's were called, Exe was permanently shut down, and Veasey was pissed off enough to start sending Cease and Desist orders.
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From: rancid milk | Posted: 6/24/2003 01:56:44 PM | Mark | Suggest
"The only user I mentioned in a negative light was Jay, and he deserves to share the blame with the rest of us for giving away DB(s) like that."

By ratting out people from LAF to troahbarton, you protrayed them in a negative way. Why do you bring up these people, even Jay? There was no need to rat Jay out like you did, CJayC didn't even mention Jay, yet you just bring him up out of nowhere, fucking pathetic.
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