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Batteries	Posted: 1/07/2004 2:19:56 PM \| Mark for Moderation \| Suggest for Marbles \| Post: #1 \|
Newbie (10) Status: Offline	Well as you may or may not know, a few months ago I asked Ryan Rosser for some webhosting. I didn't try to hassle/harrass him to give me it, but he gave it to me and we had no problems for a while. After a few weeks, I began reading up on the filesystem and directory functions in PHP: Hypertext Preprocessor's manual. I decided to try it out on the aquatakat.net server and found that I had full read/write capabilities with all of the directories. With this realization, I was tempted to snatch a copy of the boards' source and database structure (since the username and password for the MySQL server would be clearly written in the /include/config.php file) and sure enough, I did. I am not proud of doing this, but I finally got the gall up to tell Aqua and fearing a "WTF I HATE YOU NOW. DIE." reaction I was surprised to get a "Meh, that's alright" reaction out of him. So I stored the source I swiped on a floppy disk and swore to him as a friend that I would never release it under any circumstances. So I thought all was right with the world at this point. After a while, I coded up a new source for Santos (Fiveanto5)'s spinoff list. It required a MySQL database and since Five has 56k and has had no experience with MySQL (and because I didn't write up an admin file for the spinoff list.. >_>), I decided to upload phpMyAdmin to my subdomain. After Aqua gave Five a db and I configured PMA to work with said db, the new spinoff list was up and running. I felt I had accomplished something: writing up a page that would be viewed by a rather large audience. But after a few days, I noticed my FTP password to Aquatakat.net wasn't working. I figured it was a fluke, waited a few hours but to no avail. So I asked Aqua what was up, and he was all ">_>" and I was all "You removed my FTP access?" and he was all "<_< yes." And this really peeved me. He didn't have the balls to tell me flat out "I thought about it, and well, that was a really bad thing you did stealing my source, I cannot trust you anymore so I'm removing your FTP access." So I over reacted, blocked him and left AKNet, SO, and TL. But after a while I realized that he was right to do what he did in retrobution (albeit rather late..) and I've since realized it was all my fault anyway. It was during this whole escapade that I met one "Insder" who seemed like one hell of a guy. He was Aquatakat-ish (i.e. nice to talk to, knew the spinoff scene, not easily pissed off, et cetera) and I really liked him a lot. So a few weeks went by and I thought he was a faithful friend -- I thought wrong. He had stolen the information on this page: http://www.Onion.whiteFyre.com/Source_Codes/ and given it to Achilliot/skeptical peach/yarjar and claimed it was his own information. Needless to say I was mad that 1) He didn't tell me he wanted to take this info (I would have granted him permission) and 2) He didn't even say "Hey, give Onion some credit.."; I had to whine and bitch to peachy myself. My opinion of him went to shit after this. I hated him for not even being able to fess up or give a _sincere_ apology to me. I had also remembered when Rampage (our dear friend) trusted him with FTP/db access to tl.damakalakakakaklala.com and he stole the entire DB and source and basically screwed over Rampage for no reason other than the fact that Rampage would let him get away with it from what I've gathered. But of course, Rampage being the very forgiving, very loveable man he is, he let Insder be without whining, bitching, OR making it happen. Taking advantage of Scott wasn't an honourable deed nor was it an easily excused one. So to recap: 1. I did something bad to Aqua 2. I hate Insder So why write this all out? Well I'd just like to point out to Aqua that even though you've said "Oh the 1.4 source is shit xd" and "Go ahead, release it", I still haven't and don't plan on either. Also, I'd like to say that since I did have the db/cpanel username and password I could have very well fucked over the entire site and been a real jackass about it, but I didn't. I also could have run a query like "$u = mysql_query("SELECT `username`, `password` FROM `users` ORDER BY `username` ASC"); while ($hah = mysql_fetch_row($u)): echo $hah[0].'->'.$hah[1].'<br />'; endwhile;" and really done some damage (although how much I don't know). ~Onion --- I'm nothing from nowhere; I'm nothing at all http://cyberplanet.ath.cx:99/source_codes/aquaboards
Vince Russo	Posted: 1/07/2004 2:28:58 PM \| Mark for Moderation \| Suggest for Marbles \| Post: #2
Newbie (10) Status: Offline	this may sound like nothing coming from a new guy,but if you were to release the code or make your own boards i'd be happy to go along with you.id hbelp advertise and what not.either way i read the message and i nominated you for marbles :) --- The Official Leader of Crew-Gazi Taking The Crew To A New Place Expansion Baby! Russo is King
Batteries	Posted: 1/07/2004 3:44:51 PM \| Mark for Moderation \| Suggest for Marbles \| Post: #3
Newbie (10) Status: Offline	Well perhaps you didn't get why I didn't release the source nor did I use it myself. In any case, here it is: too many shitty spinoffs already, and using the code would be an even bigger betrayal to Aqua. Plus he probably has a few exploits which he could destroy me with, and I already have my own boards. But thanks for reading it at least, seriously. --- I'm nothing from nowhere; I'm nothing at all http://cyberplanet.ath.cx:99/source_codes/aquaboards
segasaturn767	Posted: 1/07/2004 4:01:48 PM \| Mark for Moderation \| Suggest for Marbles \| Post: #4
Newbie (10) Status: Offline	Wow. Seriously, I'm sorry about the source code thing. I used your ones for whiteFyre, as your the only person who has a good description of the sources... --- The one, the only, the Insder.
Osiris	Posted: 1/07/2004 4:06:19 PM \| Mark for Moderation \| Suggest for Marbles \| Post: #5
Newbie (10) Status: Offline	Well...just in case you didn't know...Insder = segasaturn767. Also, I've had my problems with him too. I don't know if you ever saw it or not, but we used to have a spinoff together (called Galaxy Boards). Now, we used the OB3 source and it needed a shit load of work, and I did it all and also added things to it. Then, after awhile it got boring and nobody went there anymore. I checked in a few times a week but nothing major happened. Well, since it was his hosting (which he got form Mold Rat) that the site was running on, he proceeded to, one day, take MY source and then took it off the site, then he took my FTP access away... However, he and I have come to terms, sort of, and he did give me back my source after EN harrassed him for awhile and he also let me back into the FTP to get some thigns I had been working on in there. As for him now, I rarly talk to him anymore, I see him post here sometimes, and he is online right now but.................... --- -Osiris
segasaturn767	Posted: 1/07/2004 4:12:08 PM \| Mark for Moderation \| Suggest for Marbles \| Post: #6
Newbie (10) Status: Offline	You'd think the signature might say I'm Insder....~_~ --- The one, the only, the Insder.
Aquatakat	Posted: 1/07/2004 5:39:02 PM \| Mark for Moderation \| Suggest for Marbles \| Post: #7
Administrator (60) Status: Online	You'd think open_basedir would be on by default, wouldn't you? Quoth TGS, "NO. IT'S NOT." --- Aquatakat.net 2 :: Wait For It Francine: Hey! Be carefull not to sneeze on the pizzas. Guido: Yeah, or we'll have to charge more for the extra toppings. ~ Samurai Pizza Cats
Oni Link	Posted: 1/07/2004 7:02:59 PM \| Mark for Moderation \| Suggest for Marbles \| Post: #8
Respected (21) Status: Offline	Insder isn't a bad guy..... He is just Vary Vary Vary Vary Vary Vary Vary Vary Vary Vary Vary Vary Vary Vary Vary Vary Vary Vary Misunderstood, much like me. --- "My parents... my co-workers... my girlfriend... I'll never see any of 'em again......YAHOO!!!!"-Fry
Aquatakat	Posted: 1/07/2004 7:06:53 PM \| Mark for Moderation \| Suggest for Marbles \| Post: #9
Administrator (60) Status: Online	very --- Aquatakat.net 2 :: Wait For It* Francine: Hey! Be carefull not to sneeze on the pizzas. Guido: Yeah, or we'll have to charge more for the extra toppings. ~ Samurai Pizza Cats
Oni Link	Posted: 1/07/2004 7:07:42 PM \| Mark for Moderation \| Suggest for Marbles \| Post: #10
Respected (21) Status: Offline	>_> <_< I still can't spell >_> <_< --- "My parents... my co-workers... my girlfriend... I'll never see any of 'em again......YAHOO!!!!"-Fry
Osiris	Posted: 1/07/2004 8:11:07 PM \| Mark for Moderation \| Suggest for Marbles \| Post: #11
Newbie (10) Status: Offline	Wow...thats sad and you did it 18 times...lol ^_~ --- -Osiris
Oni Link	Posted: 1/07/2004 8:22:32 PM \| Mark for Moderation \| Suggest for Marbles \| Post: #12
Respected (21) Status: Offline	shut up, its not my fault I can't spell!!!! its my little brothers' fault, they pester my brains out!!!! --- "My parents... my co-workers... my girlfriend... I'll never see any of 'em again......YAHOO!!!!"-Fry
Ant P	Posted: 1/08/2004 7:36:28 AM \| Mark for Moderation \| Suggest for Marbles \| Post: #13
Special (45) Status: Offline	Y'know, I'm glad the "1.9" source I gave insder was fake now... He gave it to that raijin fucktard about 0.5 seconds later. ---
Osiris	Posted: 1/08/2004 3:42:53 PM \| Mark for Moderation \| Suggest for Marbles \| Post: #14
Newbie (10) Status: Offline	lol Good thinking. --- -Osiris
Batteries	Posted: 1/08/2004 4:06:19 PM \| Mark for Moderation \| Suggest for Marbles \| Post: #15
Newbie (10) Status: Offline	has the real SO 1.9 source doesn't leak that either --- I'm nothing from nowhere; I'm nothing at all http://cyberplanet.ath.cx:99/source_codes/aquaboards
Nunka	Posted: 1/10/2004 1:54:39 PM \| Mark for Moderation \| Suggest for Marbles \| Post: #16
Special (45) Status: Offline	So, people, what have we learned from this topic? 1. Insder is a jackass. Never, ever, ever give him source code for anything more complex than a turd. 2. Aqua shouldn't give a subdomain to anyone with "expansive" MySQL knowledge unless he trusts that person. 3. Batteries has acquired the one quality most people will never have: the ability to sincerely apologize. GROUP HUG! --- "Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance." -Confucius
Aquatakat	Posted: 1/10/2004 2:16:48 PM \| Mark for Moderation \| Suggest for Marbles \| Post: #17
Administrator (60) Status: Online	gave Insder the shitty non-working AKv2 --- Aquatakat.net 2 :: Wait For It Francine: Hey! Be carefull not to sneeze on the pizzas. Guido: Yeah, or we'll have to charge more for the extra toppings. ~ Samurai Pizza Cats