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Your thoughts: LUEshi
From: seifer psx | Posted: 1/20/2005 2:41:06 PM | Message Detail
As a mod, I'm curious. What do you as the userbase of GameFAQs think about LUEshi? I have a few specific questions. I know Crono's topic was very popular and got many of you involved, but I can't promise this is going to be a revolutionary thing or that there's going to be any specific revamp of the punishment standards. However, it's something I've been thinking about and I've spoken with other mods about, so if there's some relevant data to be collected I will pass it along at the least.

If a question does not apply to you, simply don't answer it.

1. Does LUEshi bother you personally when you see it?

2. Do you support purgatory for posting one LUEshi?

3. If not, how harsh should the first offense punishment be?

4. If you support no suspension for first offense, how many offenses should lead to a suspension?

Again, thanks for your input. I'm kind of curious how everyone personally feels about LUEshi other than the punishment scale the mods put together dynamically as it developed
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From: Doodleheimer 2 | Posted: 1/20/2005 2:42:41 PM | Message Detail
LUEshi should be an instant ban. These people who post it know damn well that they'll get in trouble, yet when they get suspended, they go to MBH and use the hackneyed, "Why is a simple ASCII so dangerous? Posting porn will get you a warning, but a harmless ASCII gets you banned?" excuse.

All LUE fads should be instant notifications, in my opinion.
From: Epic | Posted: 1/20/2005 2:43:49 PM | Message Detail
1. Does LUEshi bother you personally when you see it?

LUEshi doesn't bother me at all. It's hilarious. When it's used excessively, it should be punished as a fad. It's no more or less annoying than other useless fads. So unless the TOS is strengthened against fads, it should be punished appropriately.

2. Do you support purgatory for posting one LUEshi?

No. That's absolutely ridiculous. You get in less trouble for hate speech.

3. If not, how harsh should the first offense punishment be?

NKL. It's just a fad. Escalating punishment for repeat offenses, just like any other TOS violation.

4. If you support no suspension for first offense, how many offenses should lead to a suspension?

If they do it more than twice in a short period, they're asking for it. I would escalate the punishment by one step for each separate offense.
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From: SkyQuake | Posted: 1/20/2005 2:43:52 PM | Message Detail
1. no
2. no
3. no punishment
4. ^
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From: headbanger | Posted: 1/20/2005 2:44:05 PM | Message Detail
1. Does LUEshi bother you personally when you see it?
No. It's just a jumble of letters. I'd rather it not be there, and that's where you mods come in.

2. Do you support purgatory for posting one LUEshi?
No. Ban them. Axe for a large history.

3. If not, how harsh should the first offense punishment be?
Ban.

4. If you support no suspension for first offense, how many offenses should lead to a suspension?
N/A
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From: kotetsu213 | Posted: 1/20/2005 2:44:05 PM | Message Detail
1. Does LUEshi bother you personally when you see it?
no
2. Do you support purgatory for posting one LUEshi?
yes
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From: Goblin Mugger | Posted: 1/20/2005 2:45:05 PM | Message Detail
1. Sometimes it does, usually it is just "bleh".

2. No

3. Warning then Bannage.

4. ^.
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From: Exiledfromreality | Posted: 1/20/2005 2:45:12 PM | Message Detail
1. Does LUEshi bother you personally when you see it?
Yes. To me, LUEshi epitomizes disobidence (people post it just to be disruptive)

2. Do you support purgatory for posting one LUEshi?
No.

3. If not, how harsh should the first offense punishment be?
Warning

4. If you support no suspension for first offense, how many offenses should lead to a suspension?
Second time = suspension
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From: Kuja105 Reborn | Posted: 1/20/2005 2:46:24 PM | Message Detail
1. Does LUEshi bother you personally when you see it?
Not really, but I don't hang out on LUEshi-loving boards, so I don't see it a lot.

2. Do you support purgatory for posting one LUEshi?
Not one, but excessively.

3. If not, how harsh should the first offense punishment be?
3KL. By this point, everyone who knows about LUEshi knows it's a ToS violation, and should be at least slightly punished. People slip, though.

4. If you support no suspension for first offense, how many offenses should lead to a suspension?
I'm not sure. I suppose disregarding the first moderation is pretty dumb, so a warning would be in order. After that, if they aren't going to listen, ban them.
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From: Alt Ctrl Del | Posted: 1/20/2005 2:48:27 PM | Message Detail
1. Does LUEshi bother you personally when you see it?

No.

2. Do you support purgatory for posting one LUEshi?

No way. As some one else stated people get away with alot less for doing alot worse.

3. If not, how harsh should the first offense punishment be?

Same punishment as for fads; at most 3KL.

4. If you support no suspension for first offense, how many offenses should lead to a suspension?

5+
From: Jade Revisited | Posted: 1/20/2005 2:50:32 PM | Message Detail
It's a piece of ****ing ASCII. OH NOES, SO OFFENSIVE.

Pff. I couldn't care less if I tried.

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From: HurricaneManning | Posted: 1/20/2005 2:52:11 PM | Message Detail
no

no

it depends on what you mean first offense is. If by first offense, you mean just posting it once, then it shouldnt really be that bad. But spamming it all over should lead to notification.

A history can lead to banning yes
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From: DX Homey is Back YAY | Posted: 1/20/2005 2:52:50 PM | Message Detail
1. Does LUEshi bother you personally when you see it?

no

2. Do you support purgatory for posting one LUEshi?

no

3. If not, how harsh should the first offense punishment be?

notification

4. If you support no suspension for first offense, how many offenses should lead to a suspension?

3.

notification, warning, suspension
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From: OntheH2H | Posted: 1/20/2005 2:53:58 PM | Message Detail
1. No, amd I think that anyone who does have a problem with it needs to mellow the **** out.

2. I support purgatory getting banned so that question is N/A.

3. If it is posted in a topic without other LUEshis there should be no punishment. The Soviet Russia thing is a fad but if someone randomly says it I haven't seen the message deleted. LUEshi should just be treated as a bunch of lines and if more than 1 person posts it in a row it is a fad. Normal fad punishments apply.

4. However many fad moderations would normally lead to a suspension.
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From: cmsnrub25 | Posted: 1/20/2005 2:56:49 PM | Message Detail
1. Does LUEshi bother you personally when you see it?

No, it's actually a pretty good ASCII.

2. Do you support purgatory for posting one LUEshi?

Good god, no.

3. If not, how harsh should the first offense punishment be?

Notification unless posted in an ASCII topic, at which point it's NAed unless the same person posts three in a row.

4. If you support no suspension for first offense, how many offenses should lead to a suspension?

Three strikes rule. Two notifications and a warning. Anything beyond that, take the user out back and shoot them.
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From: Mo2JDfs71KtHlas | Posted: 1/20/2005 2:58:16 PM | Message Detail
1. Does LUEshi bother you personally when you see it?
No. It's Mario riding Yoshi. Video game characters.
On a video game site. Why get bothered by that?
It's actually impressive work, considering it's made up of characters, and wasn't really "drawn".

2. Do you support purgatory for posting one LUEshi?
No. It's modded so blindly and unreasonably, they even got Patamon's LUEshi. That was so wrong.

3. If not, how harsh should the first offense punishment be?
Common sense should apply here. If there's decent talk (politics, religion, or some just plainly sking for advice), then unexpected LUEshi'D/9.8 pops out, a warn should be sufficient for someone with a relatively clean history. Suspension if it's obviously a troll (new account, or very messy history).

If it was already posted in once in that topic, suspension seems acceptable. Killing a fad before it starts is understandable. But killing something because it's mother's friend's father was related to something that Looked like a fad, is just wrong.

It shouldn't even be modded at ALL in ascii topics, unless everyone was just posting it repeatedly.
Common sense and fair judgement is something I'd expect in a moderator.

4. If you support no suspension for first offense, how many offenses should lead to a suspension?

Again, common sense. If it seems intentional as disruptive, or is inciting a LUEshi fad once more, suspend him on the spot.

It's sad to see some decent users get suspended for LUEshis in ascii topics.

If LUEshi doesn't seem too unrelated (it was in a funny social board topic, or on something wack on RI, etc.), and it wasn't being repeated/fad'D, leaving it alone EVEN sounds feasible.

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From: seifer psx | Posted: 1/20/2005 3:03:54 PM | Message Detail
Thanks everyone, I'm keeping tabs on all your data and will continue to do so for probably another 15 minutes or so then I need to go get some sleep. I'll get back on this topic in the morning then again tomorrow evening.

Currently aside from a resounding NO to purgatory on first offense, the suggested punishments have a pretty uniform distribution, so if you want an alternative to stand out, make your opinion heard, throw me a post and get on the voting block.
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From: Golan | Posted: 1/20/2005 3:09:01 PM | Message Detail
1. Does LUEshi bother you personally when you see it?
no, in fact i usually find it funny if the person makes it worthwhile (good suicides). Simple answer: no.
2. Do you support purgatory for posting one LUEshi?
one? just one and nothing else? Just one LUEshi is nothing really, but usually other stuff comes with it, so the "just one LUEshi" is a ban. I say no.
3. If not, how harsh should the first offense punishment be?
I don't exactly remember the punishments, but howabout just the strongest moderation notice (mod, karma loss, and restricted account). And since I am not really well versed in the types of moderation, I may have just described Purgatory perfectly.
4. If you support no suspension for first offense, how many offenses should lead to a suspension?
At least two.
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From: Master Trainer | Posted: 1/20/2005 3:11:32 PM | Message Detail
1. Nope
2. Nope
3. Notification
4. 3
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From: seifer psx | Posted: 1/20/2005 3:18:37 PM | Message Detail
Okay, a little bump before I head out. I know late night CE tends to be a little slow, but hopefully the topic stays active through to tomorrow. I'm planning to forward this all to CJayC on the condition there's some reasonably clear trends.

Make yourself heard. 'night everyone.
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From: Mystique03 | Posted: 1/20/2005 3:30:15 PM | Message Detail
1. Does LUEshi bother you personally when you see it?

It makes me want to stick something in my eyes because it's so ****ing stupid.

2. Do you support purgatory for posting one LUEshi?

No, ban them. If they are stupid enough to post it, then kick them out.

3. If not, how harsh should the first offense punishment be?

Instant Ban

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From: Frozensky | Posted: 1/20/2005 3:32:53 PM | Message Detail
1. Does LUEshi bother you personally when you see it?

The ASCII art? No. The idiots rallying behind it as if it were some kind of battle standard? Yeah.

2. Do you support purgatory for posting one LUEshi?

No. Ban them.
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From: Are You Listening | Posted: 1/20/2005 3:35:14 PM | Message Detail
1. Does LUEshi bother you personally when you see it?
No. I like it.

2. Do you support purgatory for posting one LUEshi?
No. The punishment drives people to post it on dares.


3. If not, how harsh should the first offense punishment be?
There shouldn't be a punishment. If there was no punishment, it wouldn't be daring to post and people would get bored of posting it.

4. If you support no suspension for first offense, how many offenses should lead to a suspension?
It should only be for people who post it everywhere.
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From: Serge16 | Posted: 1/20/2005 3:36:34 PM | Message Detail
1. Does LUEshi bother you personally when you see it?

No. In some topic's, under the right circumstance, it can be flat out hilarious.

2. Do you support purgatory for posting one LUEshi?
No.

3. If not, how harsh should the first offense punishment be?
If anything, it should just be a NKL deletion.

4. If you support no suspension for first offense, how many offenses should lead to a suspension?
If someone is spamming LUEshi's, then after 3. If someone posts one every once in awhile to crack a smile out of people, then they shouldn't ever be suspended.
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From: Donbert Knottsfried | Posted: 1/20/2005 3:36:35 PM | Message Detail
1. Does LUEshi bother you personally when you see it?
See profile

2. Do you support purgatory for posting one LUEshi?
No

3. If not, how harsh should the first offense punishment be?
Warn

4. If you support no suspension for first offense, how many offenses should lead to a suspension?
2

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From: Haunter12O | Posted: 1/20/2005 3:37:48 PM | Message Detail
1. Does LUEshi bother you personally when you see it?
No.

2. Do you support purgatory for posting one LUEshi?
Uh, no.

3. If not, how harsh should the first offense punishment be?
No Karma Loss.

4. If you support no suspension for first offense, how many offenses should lead to a suspension?
Four or five.


Honestly, it's just ASCII. Sure it's big on some browsers, but come on! Plus, it's going to be an offense no matter what. I could understand the ASCII art being something like, say, Goatse, or BethanyM Wang, as that would be considered offensive, but LUEshi is extraordinarily mild. LUEsers will eventually learn their lesson anyway.

Oh, and you all call it "LUEshi" when it's actually Mario riding Yoshi, which means you support it... Uh, a little.


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From: misterbum | Posted: 1/20/2005 3:40:15 PM | Message Detail
1. Does LUEshi bother you personally when you see it?
No.

2. Do you support purgatory for posting one LUEshi?
Not really.

3. If not, how harsh should the first offense punishment be?
NKL.

4. If you support no suspension for first offense, how many offenses should lead to a suspension?
3.
From: Frozensky | Posted: 1/20/2005 3:41:45 PM | Message Detail
There shouldn't be a punishment. If there was no punishment, it wouldn't be daring to post and people would get bored of posting it.

(Think about this one. The punishment was instated because it was being posted EVERYWHERE.)
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From: DBZFIGHTERS | Posted: 1/20/2005 3:44:11 PM | Message Detail
1. Does LUEshi bother you personally when you see it?

The only LUEshi I like is a surprise LUEshi. A LUEshi during a serious topic should result in an instant ban.

2. Do you support purgatory for posting one LUEshi?

No, that is ridiculous.

3. If not, how harsh should the first offense punishment be?

Warn.

4. If you support no suspension for first offense, how many offenses should lead to a suspension?

2.

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From: yoshimon2k | Posted: 1/20/2005 3:49:04 PM | Message Detail
1. Does LUEshi bother you personally when you see it?
no

2. Do you support purgatory for posting one LUEshi?
no - being tricked into posting things happens all the time

3. If not, how harsh should the first offense punishment be?
no karma loss deletion

4. If you support no suspension for first offense, how many offenses should lead to a suspension?

the same amount it takes for any other violation of the rules. Why make one ASCII that isn't even sexually explcit worth so much damage to an account?
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From: Bears092 | Posted: 1/20/2005 3:52:02 PM | Message Detail
insta-ban.

it's just like intentionally violating the ToS in any other way
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From: Haunter12O | Posted: 1/20/2005 3:54:06 PM | Message Detail
Actually, many LUEsers tend to think it's very sexual.

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From: Drunky | Posted: 1/20/2005 4:01:26 PM | Message Detail
1. Does LUEshi bother you personally when you see it?
Personally, no.

Annoy the **** out of me? Yes.

2. Do you support purgatory for posting one LUEshi?
Yes. It should be instant. They know its against the TOS yet they still post it. Some have gotten away with just a karma loss or a warning. That needs to stop.
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From: Darth Executor | Posted: 1/20/2005 4:05:27 PM | Message Detail
"1. Does LUEshi bother you personally when you see it?"

No. I find it rather amusing to see everybody go into a frenzy whenever it is posted.

"2. Do you support purgatory for posting one LUEshi?"
No.

"3. If not, how harsh should the first offense punishment be?"
Warning at most. It would suck for somebody who is new to the boards, or simply hasn't heard of lueshi, to get the shaft because of it. I know I got my first warning for posting a harlequin fetus pic(I had a warning message but didn't know it was a fad. Hell, i didnt even know what a fad was), and i wasn't happy.

4. If you support no suspension for first offense, how many offenses should lead to a suspension?

2-3, as long as the person knows exactly why it is not allowed.
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From: CrazySlothDance | Posted: 1/20/2005 4:05:42 PM | Message Detail
1. Does LUEshi bother you personally when you see it?
LUEshi is my second god.
2. Do you support purgatory for posting one LUEshi?
No. I find trap topics with them hilarious.
3. If not, how harsh should the first offense punishment be?
First-second within a short amount of time should be a deletion.
4. If you support no suspension for first offense, how many offenses should lead to a suspension?
Five. Third through fourth postings should be 3-KL. Again, only if they are within very close time frames of each other.

LUEshi should never, ever be a banable offense. Horrible trollfests having less of an effect on someone than a simple ASCII image is like giving someone a harsher sentence for swearing to an officer than for a murder spree.
From: KoopaKid | Posted: 1/20/2005 4:08:10 PM | Message Detail

1. Does LUEshi bother you personally when you see it?


It's rather...disturbing. It just...HELP ME!!!

2. Do you support purgatory for posting one LUEshi?

Vote for Dick Chainee!

3. If not, how harsh should the first offense punishment be?

1 Karma.

4. If you support no suspension for first offense, how many offenses should lead to a suspension?

Uhh...404?

Serously though, it's just a stupid ASCII art, but anyone who posts it SHOULD be banned immediately, because if people see the mods lightening up everybody will start doing it.
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From: Sashanan | Posted: 1/20/2005 4:09:55 PM | Message Detail
1. Does LUEshi bother you personally when you see it?

Nope. Only becomes a problem when it's spammed in mass.

2. Do you support purgatory for posting one LUEshi?

No. Not for isolated cases on a clean history.

3. If not, how harsh should the first offense punishment be?

Treat as any other large ASCII - fine in an ASCII topic, notification where it doesn't belong, warning if part of a huge fad outbreak or as a "surprise ASCII" topic (which is a combination of disruptive and trolling). Suspend only as history warrants it, however, don't go easy on those who do get themselves suspended through repeated disruptive posting.

4. If you support no suspension for first offense, how many offenses should lead to a suspension?

In the notification scenario, 4 (notify, notify, warn, suspend). In the warn scenario, 2 (warn, suspend). Standard moderation cascading.

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From: ConkerTheHedgehog | Posted: 1/20/2005 4:18:20 PM | Message Detail
If I remember correctly, the LUE sign-up thingy did say something like "We're more lenient about fads and things like that on LUE, but it doesn't mean that they should be allowed to post porn"

Well, not excatly like that, but...
So basically, it should be allowed on LUE. Not too much spamming, but still allowed.
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From: Mauron | Posted: 1/20/2005 4:24:14 PM | Message Detail
1. Does LUEshi bother you personally when you see it?
No.

2. Do you support purgatory for posting one LUEshi?
No.

3. If not, how harsh should the first offense punishment be?
Standard Disruptive ASCII punishment.

4. If you support no suspension for first offense, how many offenses should lead to a suspension?
Increase it normally with history.
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From: MMZ | Posted: 1/20/2005 4:46:25 PM | Message Detail
1. Does LUEshi bother you personally when you see it?
No, I love it! It's one of the few LUE originated fads that's NOT offensive.

2. Do you support purgatory for posting one LUEshi?
No

3. If not, how harsh should the first offense punishment be?
NKL, deleted post/topic (when out of context)

4. If you support no suspension for first offense, how many offenses should lead to a suspension?
3-strikes and your out.

To go a step further I say that LUEshi should be allowed back at GameFAQs. LUEshi itself is internet fad, not just a cheap message board fad anymore and GameFAQs is its birthplace. LUEshi has stood the test of time and is continually gaining popularity as it spreads (much like GameFAQs). If someone marks a LUEshi post for moderation then delete it, but LUEshi as a KoS even in an ASCII topic? That's just a little over sensitive.

LUEshi could even be made as a posting privilege ability for certain lever users.

On the site or the boards next anniversary, CJayC should announce the return of LUEshi and post one on the front page!
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From: tamashii | Posted: 1/20/2005 4:51:13 PM | Message Detail
Epic and DE put it quite nicely. I agree with them entirely. :)
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From: Otacon2009 | Posted: 1/20/2005 8:16:42 PM | Message Detail
Copied from Bansama's GF Rant (Link next):

I guess this is a good a point as any to try and explain to those who just don't get it. We all know that a certain overused ASCII is now worthy of an instant suspension and has caused some people to lose their accounts permanently, but here's the part that most seem incapable of grasping; it's not offensive, it doesn't offend us. It never did.

How anyone can assume that that poorly drawn ASCII is offensive is beyond me, perhaps they are either blind or stupid. I suspect both.

It is also apparent that these people don't understand why posting it causes suspensions. Let's try to explain it in simple terms that even a two year old can understand: once upon a time someone created an ASCII (say "ass-key"). Some people thought this ASCII (it's like a picture, but with no colours and not very good) was the bestest thing in the whole of GameFAQs. They liked it so much that they posted it all the time.

They thought it was funny to make a topic such as "My dad just died in a car accident and now I'm an orphan" with that ASCII as the only thing in the topic. And yes, once upon a time that was funny. At least for the first time you saw a topic like that, maybe even for the second and third time too, but when it got to the thousandth time and on any board you went to, it got boring. It got annoying. It got stupid, much like those who continued to post it.

So then one day, the merry band of moderators (say "people who uphold the rules") asked these other people to stop posting the ASCII. They didn't stop. So the moderators made them stop. They deleted the topics, first with no actual punishment. Now most people with a half a brain and the instructions (say "in-struck-shuns") on how to use it, knew this meant "don't post that ASCII anymore, it's not funny", but these people didn't have half a brain.

They didn't even have a third of a brain. So the moderators went one step further. They took back three karmies from anyone who posted it. This didn't stop them, so they took 10 karmies and warned these people. Can you guess what happened next? That's right Billy, they didn't stop, so now, they are suspended for it.

After being told for a good 12 months (that's right, one whole year) or so to stop posting it, these people still don't understand that it is no longer allowed. That's right, because it was so pathetically overused and because most people on GameFAQs fail to understand the phrase "don't do it" they are now removed from the boards. This is good. It makes the general IQ of the boards higher.
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From: Otacon2009 | Posted: 1/20/2005 8:17:14 PM | Message Detail
The moral of this story? People are not suspended for posting a poorly created ASCII, they are suspended for doing something that they know full well is not allowed on the site anymore. The same thing would have happened if they had posted one word "*tree*" for example instead of that poorly created ASCII, it's not the content that is moderated, it's the usage of the content and the fact that the ability of not posting it is way beyond these idiots. And here's the real kicker.

If they had stopped when first asked to, they would still be able to post that poorly drawn ASCII without any risk of being moderated for it. But these people are just too stupid to grasp the fact that they ****ed up. That's right, it's not the moderators' fault. They, and they alone are the ones to blame for this sad state of affairs. Although I will give them this, they are correct when they state that posting that ASCII shouldn't be a suspension. It shouldn't. They should have gotten it through their thick skulls long before that to stop.

The link to the un-censored version(Warning:Offensive langauge):
http://www.rainydayshopping.com/gfaqs/gfrant.html
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From: Otacon2009 | Posted: 1/20/2005 8:20:19 PM | Message Detail
That being said:

1. Does LUEshi bother you personally when you see it?
Yes. It's annoying to have a topic where you want to let some steam off but it turns out to be a non-talkable topic.

2. Do you support purgatory for posting one LUEshi?
No. It should be banned

3. If not, how harsh should the first offense punishment be?
Banned for un-expected,Purgatory for mid topic and warning in ASCII's

4. If you support no suspension for first offense, how many offenses should lead to a suspension?
See 3
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From: Tokimasa | Posted: 1/20/2005 8:25:29 PM | Message Detail
1. Does LUEshi bother you personally when you see it?

No, it doesn't. It's just an ASCII. However, I do find that topics appearing to be a real discussion topic that just contains any ASCII should be moderated. LUEshi where it is appriopate (ASCII topics or request topics) doesn't matter to me at all. In fact, all ASCII arts should be specifically limited to ASCII art topics of some form or another and should be moderated if they appear in any other topic.

2. Do you support purgatory for posting one LUEshi?

No. Unless, as I said above, it appears in a non-ASCII topic. But even then it should be based on the user's moderation history. So one LUEshi with no moderation history should never be a purgy.

3. If not, how harsh should the first offense punishment be?

First offense should be a 3KL Notification. I think that posting any ASCII art in a non-ASCII topic should start as a 3KL Notification. After 2 notifications for ASCII, you get one warning. Then, you get suspended and leave it up to the admin. Kind of like a three strikes rule.

4. If you support no suspension for first offense, how many offenses should lead to a suspension?

2 Notifications, 1 Warning for Disruptive. Different types of moderations shouldn't really affect each other. Mods really should look into types of moderations and not just numbers. If someone has a lot of trolling moderations, their trolling posts should be treated harsher. However, their flaming or offensive moderations should be treated harsher then someone with no violations on record but not as harsh as another troll.

~Tokimasa
From: Tombs | Posted: 1/20/2005 8:38:33 PM | Message Detail
1. Does LUEshi bother you personally when you see it?

No. I actually really like it, seeing LUEshi usually makes me feel really happy. Something about it....just makes me feel warm inside >_> lol

2. Do you support purgatory for posting one LUEshi?

No. Maybe if a user repeatedly posts LUEshi in a topic not calling for it, then yes, but i think it should be like this for ANY ascii, not just LUEshi. However i think purgatory is far too harsh for just one LUEshi. I think it's especially unfair if a new user who comes to the site not knowing anything about LUEshi, posts a LUEshi becuase someone told him/her to, and then gets purgatoried, not knowing that you get purgatoried for LUEshi.

3. If not, how harsh should the first offense punishment be?

A 3KL, and an attached warning note to say that if repeated again in a disruptive way in a non-ASCII topic, then the punishment could be much worse.

4. If you support no suspension for first offense, how many offenses should lead to a suspension?

If a user continually posts lots of LUEshi's in topics not calling for it, then they should be suspended. If they do it again after they've been suspended, then they should get banned. However, posting 1 LUEshi in an ASCII topic should still be allowed for them.

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From: NG Residence | Posted: 1/20/2005 8:49:21 PM | Message Detail
i got my good account in purgatory for 60 whole days for posting LUEshi, which is just plain idiotic.

I say no to all questions.
From: revivibus | Posted: 1/20/2005 8:56:04 PM | Message Detail
1. Does LUEshi bother you personally when you see it?
No.

2. Do you support purgatory for posting one LUEshi?
No.

3. If not, how harsh should the first offense punishment be?
Notification.

4. If you support no suspension for first offense, how many offenses should lead to a suspension?
3/none.
From: Inthesto | Posted: 1/20/2005 8:56:07 PM | Message Detail
It's stupid, it sucks, and it somehow manages to be stupider than all the other fads I've ever seen here.

And, because the longevity of a fad is inversely proportional to how funny it is, it will never die.
From: Blade Of Evils Bane | Posted: 1/20/2005 9:09:54 PM | Message Detail
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